Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away

by Phil Hickey on October 8, 2011

Post edited and updated January 2, 2013, to reflect clarifications as a result of interactions with the many people who have left comments.  I thank them for their input.

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According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness.  Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable.  Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was “treated” on a wide basis.  There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated.  And, of course, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in DSM-II.  (The DSM – Diagnostic and Statistical Manual – is the APA’s standard classification of their so-called mental disorders, and is used by many mental health workers in the USA and other countries.)

Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco.  These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the “closet” and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance.  In 1973 the APA’s nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal.  The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions.  This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974.

What’s noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough.  There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change.  Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss.  They gained a voice and began to make themselves heard.  And the APA reacted with truly astonishing speed.  And with good reason. They realized intuitively that a protracted battle would have drawn increasing attention to the spurious nature of their entire taxonomy.  So they quickly “cut loose” the gay community and forestalled any radical scrutiny of the DSM system generally.

The APA claimed that they made the change because new research showed that most homosexual people were content with their sexual orientation, and that as a group, they appeared to be as well-adjusted as heterosexual people.  I suggest, however, that these research findings were simply the APA’s face-saver.  For centuries, perhaps millennia, homosexual people had clung to their sexual orientation despite the most severe persecution and vilification, including imprisonment and death.  Wouldn’t this suggest that they were happy with their orientation?  Do we need research to confirm this?  And if we do, shouldn’t we also need research to confirm that heterosexual people are happy with their orientation?  And if poor adjustment is critical to a diagnosis of mental illness, where was the evidence of this that justified making homosexuality a mental illness in the first place?

Also noteworthy is the fact that the vote of the membership was by no means unanimous.  Only about 55% of the members who voted favored the change.

Of course, the APA put the best spin they could on these events.  The fact is that they altered their taxonomy because of intense pressure from the gay community, but they claimed that the change was prompted by research findings.

So all the people who had this terrible “illness” were “cured” overnight – by a vote!  I remember as a boy reading of the United Nations World Health Organization’s decision to eradicate smallpox.  This was in 1967, and by 1977, after a truly staggering amount of work, the disease was a thing of the past.  Why didn’t they just take a vote?  Because smallpox is a real illness.  The human problems listed in DSM are not.  It’s that simple.  You can say that geese are swans – but in reality they’re still geese.

The overall point being that the APA’s taxonomy is nothing more than self-serving nonsense.  Real illnesses are not banished by voting or by fiat, but by valid science and hard work.  There are no mental illnesses.  Rather, there are people.  We have problems; we have orientations; we have habits; we have perspectives.  Sometimes we do well, other times we make a mess of things.  We are complicated.  Our feelings fluctuate with our circumstances, from the depths of despondency to the pinnacles of bliss.  And perhaps, most of all, we are individuals.  DSM’s facile and self-serving attempt to medicalize human problems is an institutionalized insult to human dignity.  The homosexual community has managed to liberate themselves from psychiatric oppression.  But there are millions of people worldwide who are still being damaged, stigmatized, and disempowered by this pernicious system to this day.

  • Rob Bishop

    When we hate those who hate, we add more hatred to the world and poison our heart. We falsely believe our hate of what we deem wrong and evil is fuel for change, but in truth it cripples us. We can totally accept the fact violent hateful people exist, without damning them, and focus our efforts to improve our culture. When we damn others we damn ourselves.

  • commonsense_is_dead

    Jesus didn’t say anything about child molesters or bestiality (or Fords and Chevys) either. The Bible is the inspired word of God. But that aside, Jesus is the divine logos, the Word of God. Jesus is a member of the Trinity. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost. They are in perfect unity with one another. Perfect. To say that Jesus (God) had nothing to say about homosexuality is incorrect.

    Hebrews 1

    English Standard Version (ESV)

    1 Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power.

    2 Timothy 3:16

    King James Version (KJV)

    16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    The Apostle Paul (and the rest of the biblical authors) were inspired by God to write what they wrote. In other words, they were supernaturally guided to express exactly what God intended them to express as a revelation of his mind and will.

  • Rob Bishop

    It’s a logical fallacy (called circular reasoning) to say “I believe the Bible is true because the Bible says it’s true” . . . common sense is dead

  • Nathan Horvatich

    Jimmy,

    You hit the nail with the truth in you comments.

    What the LORD already said, not what man says is what will stand. The LORD already told us much about sodomites. Sodomites are of a debased mind. God said those who practice homosexual sex recieve the penalty in their own bodies. It does specify what exactly that penalty is, however I’m persuaded the penalty is a hard heart and spiritual death, and on the sure road to hellfire unless they, just as any other sinner forsakes their sin and change their mind away from sin and change it towards the LORD.

    Some bible critics, who, as soon as they open their mouth it is clear they no nothing of what they critique say ..”all sin is the same”.. In attempts to justify their own wickedness to themselves. The Bible clearing teaches that God does hate all sin,
    However NOT all sin is the same to him..

  • Jimmy Quick

    Unfortunately, most people just don’t get it. When you write God off as obsolete and irrelevant, you have in turn done exactly that very same thing to yourself.

    Only problem is, God is not effected by you or your opinion. He will never change and His Word is eternal.

    It is fine to pity the people who perish due to their own evil hearts. It is not our job to judge them. That will be done by God when He is ready.

    But do not allow your pity to become complacent acceptance or they will drag you and your family down to the pit right along with them.

    That is why God said that the practitioners of this particular sin are to be put to death. They can never come back to God and so the rest of their lives they will only seek to draw others into their web of disease and therefore add more eternal pain and suffering to themselves.

  • Athena Koop

    Hmm. So according to the Gospel accounts, during the few brief years of His public ministry, Jesus did not mention Fords, Chevys or homosexuality, among many other things. Brilliant point.

    What DID he emphasize during his brief appearance in human form on earth? What was He trying to tell us in His five great discourses? What is the purpose of the Gospels in general? When comparing the Gospels to Paul’s teachings or Levitical law, are we to assign them all equal emphasis?

  • Nathan Horvatich

    Good comments,

    The a LORD clearly tells us that a sodomite and lesbian were not “born that way”. One absolutely chooses to be a homosexual. I’ve observed this “born that way” reason is simply one justifying themselves to themselves.

    “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:24-27, 29-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

  • Nathan Horvatich

    Good comments,

    The a LORD clearly tells us that a sodomite and lesbian were not “born that way”. One absolutely chooses to be a homosexual. I’ve observed this “born that way” reason is simply one justifying themselves to themselves.

    “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:24-27, 29-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

  • Nathan Horvatich

    The Lord ruled on this SIN very early on. The death penalty was implemented, ordained and carried by the command from the Lord himself. Of his 600 plus commands to his newly created people/government, only a few of the 600 laws were punishable by the death penalty. This is included in the bible for our insight into what the Lawgiver (LORD) views this SIN of sodomy and lesbianism. One be most wise to align their “opinions” with the Lord, as his “opinion” is what will stand and what the world will be judged against if you reject the Lord Jesus and his grace. The bible is clear if you not saved by grace by accepting the free gift of Christ you will be judged by your works against the “Law” of the bible. If that chilling thought doesn’t scare you straight you are the manifested example the bible talks of when it defines one who has a debased mind, passed feeling and is surely on their way to hellfire.

  • Rob Bishop

    Don’t blame your hatred on Jesus.

  • Athena Koop

    Death by stoning was also decreed for those who gathered firewood on Saturday – see Numbers 15:32-36. Nathan, are you spending any time on websites for camping enthusiasts, warning weekend campers of impending damnation for their SINful practices? If not, why not?

  • not smarter than anyone else

    According to this presentation on how the homosexual mental disorder went away was because of strategic lobbying. It specifies; ” In 1973 the APA’s nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal.” There’s always a simple way to test for normal or natural. Most would tend to agree that both superlatives may go hand in hand. This would be my simple test of the validity of homosexuality being normal, natural.
    Take an island half the size of Scotland. Divide the island into two. Whereas one cannot deviate from one side to the other. Fill one half with 5000 gay men and their chosen same sex partners. On the other side 5000 lesbian women and of course their chosen same sex partners. Give each side all the comforts of home, music, communication, places to go, people to see. Remember this is an experiment on normal & natural. So neither side can make, adopt, bring, clone children. Give this experiment 100 years. How many people wil exist on this island post 1 century. If you surmised zero. You have your answer as to the question as to whether or not homosexuality is normal and natural. Not everyone but many Americans have or know a family member or friend that is gay. Cool. However, being given the right to marry. Has put others, Christians, in the precarious situation of falling victim to filth that just must take the sewer road and litigate their way to thinking this validates me. It only make many that remember the time when homosexuality was a mental disorder.
    And that community was of course, ” For centuries, perhaps millennia, homosexual people had clung to their sexual orientation despite the most severe persecution and vilification, including imprisonment and death.” Now it’s a few self chosen of the lgbt persuasion that just must pass on the persecution and vilification of Christians they now label as self righteous bigots, & homophobic. Fear ye not as the ultimate court of GOD wil have the final say.
    As per the closing of the above, the person make nice sounds, nice statements as to not hurt the feelings of the less than 2% minority. Let’s keep in mind that GOD’S truth in normal and natural will always mean that 100 years later children will be there to sing his praises and give edification that is justly deserved for the CREATOR of all. So shall it be. So shall it be written.

  • Rob Bishop

    Your definition of “normal and natural” is based on reproduction, so by your yardstick, a couple who decides not to have children are abnormal, because they don’t reproduce. That’s plain silly.

  • not smarter than anyone else

    Thanks for you eloquent descriptive on my yardstick. Being as I’ve been divorced for 30 yrs & over the plentiful years of experience with life in general and with women that became girlfriends and more. I am part of your interpretation of abnormal. Because while I have been involved with women at any given time over the last 30 years I never got any pregnant. And planned by choice not to have children. Although being a man and having relationships with women. I very well could have. So in my silliness. I have predetermined that my life here would have no legacy. And that is the crux of the reason for my writing such silliness. As a choice, which thank GOD we have the liberty of in America. I along with any of the relationships I have had. Did so in choosing not to have children. So perhaps you don’t get it. But procreation is the only way the human species can endure. Unless in your genius you’ve encountered a new or different way for humans to endure. Short of becoming immortal. So in your own way you have given credence to the un-naturalness of homosexuality. Because two of the same sex can’t procreate their union is quite un-normal, un-natural. As I stated above because the determination was made to vote the disorder out of the APA text. That did not mean x amount of persons were cured or automatically never involved in a deviant or perverted sexual behavior. And as I mentioned prior. Self loathing and self hatred are some of the feelings shared by many early homosexuals. In my family there are a few . And I’ve discussed this with them. And yes all of them experienced those feelings along their early way. Giving in and getting with it. Doesn’t mean GOD has exonerated them for their wickedness. Some simply rationalize it to the present and conclude there’s no afterlife so they won’t concern themselves with consequence. Yet still others carry it within and wonder if there’s a post life experience how will there’s be fulfilled.
    So after the Presidential election has concluded and the 7th justice is appointed and the same sex marriage law is rescinded. The others waiting in line will not be able to vote their disorder off the books. The pedifiles, people that have sex with animals, habitual masterbaters, and the like. And if you think they’re not trying. Do a little research. So again in closing. I thank you for your, unconscious affirmation it was pleasing to know that no matter the undertaking some will always realize that they instinctively want or crave or wish they had faith in GOD. So as to not feel the hollowness that the homosexuality falsely seems to fill.

  • Rob Bishop

    Would you call monks who choose celibacy “abnormal”?

  • not smarter than enyone else

    Sir, apparently you wish to interject your own words into my narrative. Please Re-read what I wrote. I never wrote anywhere the word abnormal. I explicitly tried to stay on point with the original subject matter. You must be a leftist liberal. You do realize that the democratic party is no more. And that it is now the progressive socialist party. It is the baiting that you wish to possibly have me to feel negatively, or perhaps get me mad or upset or whatever. I’m sympathetic to your niaevity, perhaps you may undertake some soul searching, meditation on your innerself and belief system. When an individual gives their life over to our CREATOR, a spiritual bond is born that cannot be broken. No matter what. So life is better, easier, fulfilled. So once GOD’s Holy Spirit began to guide me. I’m not in a position to lapse to negative feeling or behavior. This is why you try to get my goat by asking a non sensicle question as to a monk or priest or nun is abnormal. They have merely made a choice. To be one with our Heavenly Father, vs being one with the opposite sex. Just read genises. The way GOD created man, then had him name all beasts. Was in order for him to see that the paring of each species was specific to male and female. After that GOD created woman. So that procreation could always sustain what He created. Where, when and why a man or woman decided to lay with their same sex and have un-natural sex with each other is a mystery. I don’t care nor dwell on any of that. I only know that GOD has a plan, He executes it. And that’s the period. Since He has made us will the freedom of choice in our entire thought process. How can the choice of sexuality be suppressed. It can’t. There are just as many people, faith based or not that are disgusted by the sight of homosexual behavior. Now as there was in 1950. But because of the PSP and their politically correct speak. If anyone shows their disdain for it they are labeled. Why cause it’s what they do. In their own minds if a lie is repeated enough. It’s less and less a lie and more and more true. Just because a liberal says the sky is brown and the sea is pink. Doesn’t really mean it is. So again Sir you’re reaching out. Maybe to gain attention or notoriety. Or what ever, but you can’t sell me on your thought process if I don’t have the currency you want. Or sway me because I should be tolerant. Try to keep in mind that the gay – lgbt 2% in America may be in the forefront now. But when the Marxist radical community organizer is gone. This too shall pass. 98% vs 2% That’s why I’m not concerned with their momentum it’s a lost cause. I’m more concerned with the criminal Clinton finally being caught with an indisputable crime and falling from the pedestal of the PSP. And getting the republican party to fall into place or be replaced by the Constitutional Conservative Party. A new platform I would be proud become a founder or member of. So may the peace of GOD be with you. Your immortal soul depends on it.

  • Jamie

    Oh cool now we can stop talking about “mental illness” and mass shootings.

  • destiny
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  • Jimmy Quick

    Your relationship with Christ is your own. Why do you blame others for your own failure?

    The beginning of healing is to admit you are not well.

    The most honest person in the room is seldom appreciated and certainly not admired.

    What drives you away from Christianity is sin.

    Do you love your sin so much that you are willing to burn for eternity?

  • destiny

    no idiot. I am not Christian. I am Wicca. and you are full of shit. you are the hate and vile vitriol of this world. Now I will make it clear again SCIENCE RULES HERE NOT RELIGIOUS DELUSION. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME.

    Science is REAL religion is NOT. you want to believe in make believe you go on ahead but when you use that crap against others it is time for that religion TO BE OUTLAWED AND MADE A CAPITAL OFFENSE with a death sentence.

    If you cant think clearly about what is what and you use an old dusty book as your only reference to life you are not just a fool but a delusional fool.

    https://youtu.be/A3C4ZJ7HyuE https://youtu.be/W_655Vt6LKA http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10843193 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24391851 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25375171 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21195418 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21094885 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402034/ https://lizdaybyday.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/mtf_brain_scan_differences.png http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Gender%20Dysphoria%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

  • destiny
  • Jimmy Quick

    Science is not only in full 100% agreement with the Bible, but it’s very principles, laws and markers were written by the same God you attempt to mock and diminish.

    My dear foolish mouck, you are a victim of your own ignorance and are so unaware of what is happening all around you that I wonder how it is possible you can even think at all.

    Most people will take the time, some out of frustration and others out of curiosity, to try and think a thought through to a logical conclusion.

    It must take a lot of energy to maintain a shutdown brain.

    Anyway, you’ve stated your piece. Too bad for you and anyone else who ever cared for you.

    This life does not end well for your kind.

  • destiny

    Stupid ass i am not foolish and i am not diminished and as for intelligence well i have you beat there as well. and i do not believe in your HATE RELIGION. i do not care what you think fuckball to tell you the truth you are a MORON THAT BELIEVES IN A DELUSION.
    Facts are Facts and Transgender are VALIDATED BY SCIENCE.
    and SCIENCE RULES HERE. not some invisible sky fairy. and LIFE WILL END WELL FOR ME. a lot better than you will have.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a11faed8099ac8be8adfab338837471a0749d0ee9176e3a2b76f1bcc4e1022b8.jpg
    https://youtu.be/A3C4ZJ7HyuE https://youtu.be/W_655Vt6LKA http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10843193 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24391851 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25375171 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21195418 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21094885 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402034/ https://lizdaybyday.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/mtf_brain_scan_differences.png http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Gender%20Dysphoria%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

  • destiny

    Stupid ass i am not foolish and i am not diminished and as for intelligence well i have you beat there as well. and i do not believe in your HATE RELIGION. i do not care what you think fuckball to tell you the truth you are a MORON THAT BELIEVES IN A DELUSION.
    Facts are Facts and Transgender are VALIDATED BY SCIENCE.
    and SCIENCE RULES HERE. not some invisible sky fairy. and LIFE WILL END WELL FOR ME. a lot better than you will have.

    https://youtu.be/A3C4ZJ7HyuE https://youtu.be/W_655Vt6LKA http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10843193 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24391851 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25375171 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21195418 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21094885 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402034/ https://lizdaybyday.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/mtf_brain_scan_differences.png http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Gender%20Dysphoria%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a11faed8099ac8be8adfab338837471a0749d0ee9176e3a2b76f1bcc4e1022b8.jpg

  • destiny

    see here is what would have happened to you. we would wait then once we got you well let just say no one would see you anymore.
    threaten any LGBT AGAIN i would love to send my BIKER boyfriend to end you.

  • destiny

    i hope i do run into you. i now want to end you myself.

  • Jimmy Quick

    It’s still a free country last time I checked and you can try anything you like. Who knows? Maybe you’ll get away with it, and maybe not.

    I’ve never killed anyone myself. Came close a couple of times. I can’t thing of a better person to help me have a break through.

    In fact I’m looking forward to it. Thanks.

  • Jimmy Quick

    Hell was made for the Devil and his followers. Do you have any idea what is waiting for you?

    Can you really be this stupid that you want to pick a fight with a cyber person?

    And I doubt you have a boyfriend. You probably have a boy that occasionally rides you in an ally or a basement, but his Huffy doesn’t qualify for the “Biker” title.

    Be careful not to fall off the handlebars when he makes those sharp turns.

  • Jimmy Quick

    I couldn’t care less what you think. I have a job and that is to tell the truth. You have a job and that is to accept it or to reject it.

    It is just that plain and simple.

    Transgendering is something I know very little about and if I learned that someone was pretending to be something they are not, I would stay away from them an tell anyone I know so that they would stay away from them.

    To address your claim that it is somehow acceptable to mutilate your body and pretend you somehow changed your sex, only a total head case would ever do this.

    And while there maybe many candidates that hope to gain some kind of an advantage by pretending to be something they are not, you will never be able to change the cell markers in your body that determine you to be either male or female.

    When I was younger I didn’t understand what God meant when he talked about “self-abusers of mankind.”

    That has changed, but no matter how much you cut yourself and add or take away certain pieces of flesh, you will go into the grave exactly as whatever sex your were born.

    That is science and your claim is fantasy.

  • Jimmy Quick

    Why did you post this twice. Are you out of things to say. Got play with your cat or something.

  • Athena Koop

    Are you saying that you are looking forward to having an opportunity to try to kill “destiny?”

  • Jimmy Quick

    Her choice.

  • Athena Koop

    No, YOU seemed to be expressing a desire to kill somebody. That’s nobody’s “choice” but your own.

  • Jimmy Quick

    Learn to read or is that impossible at your age?

  • Athena Koop

    So, you’re too cowardly to answer the question. No surprise there. All bullies are cowards at heart.

  • Jimmy Quick

    I answered it. You’re just so blinded by your ignorance, you can’t understand my answer.

  • Athena Koop

    No, you did not answer it. You merely tried (and failed) to shift the blame onto somebody else for your own murderous expression. Here is your comment to “destiny”
    Jimmmy Quick: “I’ve never killed anyone myself. Came close a couple of times. I can’t think of a better person to help me have a break through.
    In fact I’m looking forward to it. Thanks.”

    Seems pretty clear that you (a self-professed “Christian”) are stating that you would look forward to having an opportunity to commit murder. You’re also stating that you’ve come close to committing murder more than once. How shameful. Yet you seem proud and flaunt your nature of a jack-booted thug. Charming. (not)

  • Jimmy Quick

    Since when did self defense become murder? Don’t even bother to answer. In your twisted mind, everyone is guilty until proven innocent and that never happens because your mind is so clogged up with crap that you can’t think straight.

  • Athena Koop

    SELF DEFENSE?! LOL! What a crock! How is “destiny” going to harm you over the internet? This is not the first time you’ve expressed a desire to murder somebody. You’ve also expressed a wish that you might be “lucky enough to finish” ME off! And Jesus is going to help you! Here’s the link to your murderous rant:

    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/behaviorismandmentalhealth/homosexuality_the_mental_illness_that_went_away/#comment-2322062417

    You state, and I quote, “maybe you will be around to see exactly who Jesus will beat up and maybe I will be lucky enough to be one of the ones that comes with Him to finish you off.”

    On Sunday, Oct. 18, 2015, you posted a comment on this article bragging about how you beat one of your houseguests to, in your words, “within an inch of his life” causing him to be hospitalized for a week.

    You’re the one with the clogged up mind – clogged up with hatred and violence.

    Have a blessed day, brother Jimmy!

  • Jimmy Quick

    Like I said. You are very limited in your thinking and your abilities. Please go play with someone who is more on your level.

    Thanks and good-bye

    PS I won’t respond anymore, you are too idiotic to talk to and if you keep pushing, I will block you.

  • Athena Koop

    “with someone who is more on your level.” Good advice. I’ll look for somebody cleverer than you then with whom to dialogue. No challenge there! As for blocking me, well, that would be the cowardly way out, so by all means, please do go right ahead and block me. Don’t step out of character on my account, coward. Cheers, you hate-filled thug.

  • Tom

    To say there is no real mental illnesses is to have never met someone with one ! Its nuts , you say theres no syphilis or lyme disease ? , dementia ! Schizophrenia paranoia . ? Illnesses that affect the normal function of the brain’s ability to distribute Norrel transmission , are called mental illnesses .

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  • destiny

    moron fact is you are stupid. there is medical science saying you are wrong.

  • destiny
  • destiny

    no he has a Harley. and you are a moron that believes in fantasy the delusion of religion. there is no hell or devil you simpleminded halfwit.

  • Jimmy Quick

    Good bye.

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