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		<title>Comment on More on Multiple Personality Disorder by Jeanette Bartha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanette Bartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for letting your readers know you have never found a patient who presented with multiple personalities. They don&#039;t exist, and I&#039;m pleased you have the fortitude to say so.

Jeanette Bartha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for letting your readers know you have never found a patient who presented with multiple personalities. They don&#8217;t exist, and I&#8217;m pleased you have the fortitude to say so.</p>
<p>Jeanette Bartha</p>
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		<title>Comment on Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tamluv,

Thanks for coming back. I’m having difficulty understanding and responding to your position. I have never said that homosexuality is an illness. Indeed, the central theme of this blog is that none of the behaviors outlined in DSM are illnesses (including homosexuality). Please come back and clarify, but I would be grateful if you could leave the rancor and vituperation outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tamluv,</p>
<p>Thanks for coming back. I’m having difficulty understanding and responding to your position. I have never said that homosexuality is an illness. Indeed, the central theme of this blog is that none of the behaviors outlined in DSM are illnesses (including homosexuality). Please come back and clarify, but I would be grateful if you could leave the rancor and vituperation outside.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tamluv,

It is self-evident that homosexual behavior is a choice (as is heterosexual behavior). If a person goes to a gay bar and chats up an individual of the same gender, this constitutes homosexual behavior, and it is obvious that this is a choice. Unfortunately, however, the word “choice” has acquired an emotional loading which militates against rational discourse. The point I have made repeatedly is that choice is simply &lt;em&gt;descriptive&lt;/em&gt; of behavior, not explanatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tamluv,</p>
<p>It is self-evident that homosexual behavior is a choice (as is heterosexual behavior). If a person goes to a gay bar and chats up an individual of the same gender, this constitutes homosexual behavior, and it is obvious that this is a choice. Unfortunately, however, the word “choice” has acquired an emotional loading which militates against rational discourse. The point I have made repeatedly is that choice is simply <em>descriptive</em> of behavior, not explanatory.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David N,

Thanks for coming back.  In the “old days” homosexuality was generally considered to be a pathological condition, and attempts at remediation were practiced by various agencies, including mental health, church, general medicine, schools, etc.. I don’t think it would be accurate to characterize behaviorists as having had a lead role in these kinds of endeavors.  Indeed, by stressing the somewhat arbitrary nature of ethical standards generally, it could possibly be argued that it was behaviorists who paved the way for the increased acceptance of homosexual behaviors that we see today.

But – to answer your question – behaviorists did indeed “treat” homosexuality – not because they considered it an illness – but simply because the individuals concerned asked for help in making these kinds of changes.

The methods varied, of course, but the general principle was that sexual arousal and satisfaction were occurring in contexts that were considered inappropriate by the standards of the day.  So the “treatment” was three-faceted:  pairing the inappropriate stimulus with an aversive experience; teaching an “appropriate” reaction to the homosexual encounter; and teaching sexual reactiveness to a heterosexual context.

Obviously this whole area is a minefield in the present political climate. Strictly speaking the behaviorist position generally is that behavior that is learned can be unlearned.  Now, of course, the PC people will assert that homosexuality is not learned.  But of course it is.  (As is heterosexual behavior).  The only truly “natural” sexual reaction is orgasm.  Everything else has to be learned – how, where, when, and in what context.  All these factors are a part of what is termed sexual behavior.

Here are some references on homosexuality “treatment”:  Feldman and MacCulloch: &lt;em&gt;Homosexual behavior: Therapy and assessment&lt;/em&gt; 1971; Gold and Neufeld: &lt;em&gt;A learning approach to the treatment of homosexuality&lt;/em&gt; (in &lt;em&gt;Behavior Research and Therapy&lt;/em&gt;, 1965, 2, 201-204).  Interestingly Albert Ellis (of rational-emotive therapy fame) wrote &lt;em&gt;Homosexuality: its causes and cure&lt;/em&gt; (1965).

The critical difference between then and now from a behaviorist perspective is that &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; many of the individuals who practiced homosexual behavior actually expressed a desire to change those behaviors. Today they are more likely to feel OK about their homosexual preferences.  It wasn’t an illness then, and it isn’t an illness now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David N,</p>
<p>Thanks for coming back.  In the “old days” homosexuality was generally considered to be a pathological condition, and attempts at remediation were practiced by various agencies, including mental health, church, general medicine, schools, etc.. I don’t think it would be accurate to characterize behaviorists as having had a lead role in these kinds of endeavors.  Indeed, by stressing the somewhat arbitrary nature of ethical standards generally, it could possibly be argued that it was behaviorists who paved the way for the increased acceptance of homosexual behaviors that we see today.</p>
<p>But – to answer your question – behaviorists did indeed “treat” homosexuality – not because they considered it an illness – but simply because the individuals concerned asked for help in making these kinds of changes.</p>
<p>The methods varied, of course, but the general principle was that sexual arousal and satisfaction were occurring in contexts that were considered inappropriate by the standards of the day.  So the “treatment” was three-faceted:  pairing the inappropriate stimulus with an aversive experience; teaching an “appropriate” reaction to the homosexual encounter; and teaching sexual reactiveness to a heterosexual context.</p>
<p>Obviously this whole area is a minefield in the present political climate. Strictly speaking the behaviorist position generally is that behavior that is learned can be unlearned.  Now, of course, the PC people will assert that homosexuality is not learned.  But of course it is.  (As is heterosexual behavior).  The only truly “natural” sexual reaction is orgasm.  Everything else has to be learned – how, where, when, and in what context.  All these factors are a part of what is termed sexual behavior.</p>
<p>Here are some references on homosexuality “treatment”:  Feldman and MacCulloch: <em>Homosexual behavior: Therapy and assessment</em> 1971; Gold and Neufeld: <em>A learning approach to the treatment of homosexuality</em> (in <em>Behavior Research and Therapy</em>, 1965, 2, 201-204).  Interestingly Albert Ellis (of rational-emotive therapy fame) wrote <em>Homosexuality: its causes and cure</em> (1965).</p>
<p>The critical difference between then and now from a behaviorist perspective is that <em>then</em> many of the individuals who practiced homosexual behavior actually expressed a desire to change those behaviors. Today they are more likely to feel OK about their homosexual preferences.  It wasn’t an illness then, and it isn’t an illness now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Multiple Personality Disorder, Continued by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Thanks for an interesting comment.  A number of writers over the years have discussed the difference between an explanation and a description, and I think the topic is still addressed in first year logic/philosophy courses (or at least it should be).  But psychiatrists and other mental health professionals don’t seem to get it.  A great book that I have relied on heavily over the years is Ullmann and Krasner’s &lt;em&gt;A Psychological Approach to Abnormal Behavior&lt;/em&gt; (Second Edition, Prentice-Hall, 1975)

Once again, thanks for coming in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Thanks for an interesting comment.  A number of writers over the years have discussed the difference between an explanation and a description, and I think the topic is still addressed in first year logic/philosophy courses (or at least it should be).  But psychiatrists and other mental health professionals don’t seem to get it.  A great book that I have relied on heavily over the years is Ullmann and Krasner’s <em>A Psychological Approach to Abnormal Behavior</em> (Second Edition, Prentice-Hall, 1975)</p>
<p>Once again, thanks for coming in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Multiple Personality Disorder, Continued by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,


 


Thanks for an interesting comment.  A number of writers over the years have
discussed the difference between an explanation and a description, and I think
the topic is still addressed in first year logic/philosophy courses (or at
least it should be).  But psychiatrists
and other mental health professionals don’t seem to get it.  A great book that I have relied on heavily
over the years is Ullmann and Krasner’s A
Psychological Approach to Abnormal Behavior (Second Edition, Prentice-Hall,
1975)


 


Once again, thanks for coming in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Thanks for an interesting comment.  A number of writers over the years have<br />
discussed the difference between an explanation and a description, and I think<br />
the topic is still addressed in first year logic/philosophy courses (or at<br />
least it should be).  But psychiatrists<br />
and other mental health professionals don’t seem to get it.  A great book that I have relied on heavily<br />
over the years is Ullmann and Krasner’s A<br />
Psychological Approach to Abnormal Behavior (Second Edition, Prentice-Hall,<br />
1975)</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Once again, thanks for coming in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away by Tamluv22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamluv22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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More ignorance on the rampage! 30 years ago
and even today many ignorant people were and are the ones who tried to claim
that being gay was a choice, gay people know that they didn&#039;t just wake up one
day and say &quot;oh, you know what would be fun...I think I will start being
gay and face the ridicule and torment of society!&quot; Gay people have always
said that this isn&#039;t a choice anyone would make, that they cannot help it, and
that they were born the way they are! Get a clue and quite being so ignorant
and judgemental! Secondly, transexuals entire problem is not the mental issue,
it is that they feel like they were born in the wrong body. So of course, they
want to have the sex change. You are ignorantly confusing the two, anyway, because
transsexuals are not gay. Read a bit on the subject (TRY TO DO SO OBJECTIVELY)
in any Psychology book and perhaps you will learn something. By the way, your
grouping one set of persons with another set is ridiculous! I guess that by
your rational, a person born with anything they do not like should just live
with it if they
do not like it, like cancer.  Alternatively, if they were born something
that they are proud of and do not find to be a problem (even thought ignorant
society members disagree) like having black or brown skin they should choose to
change that.  Come on!  Be sensible here; do yourself a favor by
learning more about what you are spouting off.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More ignorance on the rampage! 30 years ago<br />
and even today many ignorant people were and are the ones who tried to claim<br />
that being gay was a choice, gay people know that they didn&#8217;t just wake up one<br />
day and say &#8220;oh, you know what would be fun&#8230;I think I will start being<br />
gay and face the ridicule and torment of society!&#8221; Gay people have always<br />
said that this isn&#8217;t a choice anyone would make, that they cannot help it, and<br />
that they were born the way they are! Get a clue and quite being so ignorant<br />
and judgemental! Secondly, transexuals entire problem is not the mental issue,<br />
it is that they feel like they were born in the wrong body. So of course, they<br />
want to have the sex change. You are ignorantly confusing the two, anyway, because<br />
transsexuals are not gay. Read a bit on the subject (TRY TO DO SO OBJECTIVELY)<br />
in any Psychology book and perhaps you will learn something. By the way, your<br />
grouping one set of persons with another set is ridiculous! I guess that by<br />
your rational, a person born with anything they do not like should just live<br />
with it if they<br />
do not like it, like cancer.  Alternatively, if they were born something<br />
that they are proud of and do not find to be a problem (even thought ignorant<br />
society members disagree) like having black or brown skin they should choose to<br />
change that.  Come on!  Be sensible here; do yourself a favor by<br />
learning more about what you are spouting off.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away by Tamluv22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamluv22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>





Wow! In addition, do you see race as an
&quot;illness&quot;, as well? What YOU fall to mention in YOUR prejudicial
little story here is...where was the scientific EVIDENCE that made this an
illness IN THE FIRST PLACE? Perhaps...that was the first mistake, and the
&quot;vote&quot; was to right a wrong? Just because you cannot wrap your small
mind around someone being different from you, does not mean that that person is
ill! In fact, I believe that YOU are the one with the illness... it is called
HOMOPHOBIA! You see the truth is that you have shaped this article to fit your agenda
and left out many actual facts...which is frequently seen by people who aren&#039;t
actually trying to discover truth, rather they want to shape their own OPINIONS
and will reach for anything that can remotely add weight to the argument (even
if it is a bunch of bull...). Give some facts, show the proof that homosexuality
was ever proven to be an illness! I dare you...DOCTOR???

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! In addition, do you see race as an<br />
&#8220;illness&#8221;, as well? What YOU fall to mention in YOUR prejudicial<br />
little story here is&#8230;where was the scientific EVIDENCE that made this an<br />
illness IN THE FIRST PLACE? Perhaps&#8230;that was the first mistake, and the<br />
&#8220;vote&#8221; was to right a wrong? Just because you cannot wrap your small<br />
mind around someone being different from you, does not mean that that person is<br />
ill! In fact, I believe that YOU are the one with the illness&#8230; it is called<br />
HOMOPHOBIA! You see the truth is that you have shaped this article to fit your agenda<br />
and left out many actual facts&#8230;which is frequently seen by people who aren&#8217;t<br />
actually trying to discover truth, rather they want to shape their own OPINIONS<br />
and will reach for anything that can remotely add weight to the argument (even<br />
if it is a bunch of bull&#8230;). Give some facts, show the proof that homosexuality<br />
was ever proven to be an illness! I dare you&#8230;DOCTOR???</p>
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		<title>Comment on Behavior Therapy by focus formula review</title>
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		<dc:creator>focus formula review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;focus formula review...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]Behavior Therapy &#171; Behaviorism and Mental Health[...]...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>focus formula review&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>[...]Behavior Therapy &laquo; Behaviorism and Mental Health[...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away by DavidN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the early behaviorists had something to do with the attempts to &quot;cure&quot; homosexuality before it was removed from the list of mental illnesses. It that true, Phil? How did they do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the early behaviorists had something to do with the attempts to &#8220;cure&#8221; homosexuality before it was removed from the list of mental illnesses. It that true, Phil? How did they do it?</p>
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